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The use of unqualified staff as cover "teachers" in schools is totally unacceptable.

The use of unqualified staff as cover "teachers" in schools is totally unacceptable. Schools should only employ fully qualified and registered teachers for all lessons in all classes for all pupils

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      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Now that most schools have opted to "re-badge" themselves as academies and as the stupid Mr Gove now realises no member of staff at the school needs to be QUALIFIED!

        The head and all the teaching staff need absolutely no qualifications at all! How hypocritical, dimwitted and what an utter mockery of well qualified, graduate teachers we are experiencing in Britain. Witness how all manner of staff at secondary schools are hoddwinking and bluffing their way in maths, science and other subjects.

        Is it any wonder that English schools are well down the list in world educational league tables where other countries show respect and reverence to properly qualified and registered teachers?

        The current situation is utterly unacceptable and would not be tolerated in any civilised country.

        Academies and the DFE are behaving despicably in allowing this to happen. Mr Michael Gove needs to be dismissed immediately for hoodwinking, devaluing, degrading and completely undermining our once respected educational system.

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Now that most schools have opted to "re-badge" themselves as academies and as the stupid Mr Gove now realises no member of staff at the school needs to be QUALIFIED!

        The head and all the teaching staff need absolutely no qualifications at all! How hypocritical, dimwitted and what an utter mockery of well qualified, graduate teachers we are experiencing in Britain. Witness how all manner of staff at secondary schools are hoddwinking and bluffing their way in maths, science and other subjects.

        Is it any wonder that English schools are well down the list in world educational league tables where other countries show respect and reverence to properly qualified and registered teachers?

        The current situation is utterly unacceptable and would not be tolerated in any civilised country.

        Academies and the DFE are behaving despicably in allowing this to happen. Mr Michael Gove needs to be dismissed immediately for hoodwinking, devaluing, degrading and completely undermining our once respected educational system.

      • Dennis LaneDennis Lane commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        There are self study courses being advertised aimed at people with no qualifications who to train as Teaching Assistants. Such courses can consist of 12 modules each requiring about 3 - 6 hours of study.

        After succesfully completing such a course a successfull candidate can then be employed as a Teaching Assistant in schools. A few more hours of extra training and then a couple of years experience in a school and said Teaching Assistant can then take responsibility for covering or teaching whole classes on a regular basis.

        On the other hand there are some people with O levels, A levels, degrees, teaching qualifications and over 30 years teaching experience who are being replaced by teaching assistants and cover supervisors and unable to get any teaching work at all.

        There are tens of thousands of qualified teachers (possibly as high as 100,000) unable to get teaching work while at the same time there are many unqualified teachers and support staff carrying out teaching work.

        Michael Gove has stated in Parliament that all children deserve to have all of their time in class with high quality teachers. So why does he refuse to stop the practice of using unqualified staff instead of qualified teachers for teaching?

        The general public has no idea that the practice of using unqualified staff instead of teachers is going on and this should be brought to their attention more forcibly.

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Totally unacceptable, immoral and utterly disrespectful to children to allow unqualified staff in our classrooms masquerading as "teachers".

        Mr Gove you are one big FAKE and a completely hypocritical idiot.

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        To: Public Agenda Team at THE TIMES, 2007

        Dear Sir/Madam,

        Your report (Public Agenda, Sept 25) of an Ofsted research endeavour published in the TES (Sept 21) to find a link between poor teaching and soaring truancy rates quotes Christine Gilbert, the chief inspector of schools who suggests that the answer lies in "...high quality lessons, strong leadership and management...".

        As she probably knows many cover lessons in secondary schools are supposedlly "taught" by cheap, unqualified staff namely teaching assistants. Most would agree that "high quality lessons" usually happen when children are properly taught by qualified, registered teachers who are also secondary subject specialists.

        The now endemic use of unqualified staff in secondary schools as cover "teachers" is totally unacceptable. All lessons should be taught by properly qualified teachers!

        Is there any wonder that so many children are getting bored with this kind of lesson delivery usually through endless worksheets?

        Yours sincerely,
        Petronius Philips

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        To: Public Agenda Team at THE TIMES

        Dear Sir/Madam,

        Your report (Public Agenda, Sept 25) of an Ofsted research endeavour published in the TES (Sept 21) to find a link between poor teaching and soaring truancy rates quotes Christine Gilbert, the chief inspector of schools who suggests that the answer lies in "...high quality lessons, strong leadership and management...".

        As she probably knows many cover lessons in secondary schools are supposedlly "taught" by cheap, unqualified staff namely teaching assistants. Most would agree that "high quality lessons" usually happen when children are properly taught by qualified, registered teachers who are also secondary subject specialists.

        The now endemic use of unqualified staff in secondary schools as cover "teachers" is totally unacceptable. All lessons should be taught by properly qualified teachers!

        Is there any wonder that so many children are getting bored with this kind of lesson delivery usually through endless worksheets?

        Yours sincerely,
        Petronius Philips

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Laura Tyrrell, nothing in life is mutually exclusive but would you wish to be diagnosed and treated by an unqualified, non-registered quack masquerading as a "doctor"??? We can all give examples of hopeless, dimwitted and under-performing GPs and hospital doctors in any profession but YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!

        We once had a central registration body for fully qualified teachers but...??????

        You must think out of your own subjective box and realise that there are numerous well qualified, young, dynamic and COMPETENT TEACHERS who now find themselves unemployed because of this Government's undermining, devaluing and disrespectful attitude!

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Laura Tyrrell, nothing in life is mutually exclusive but would you wish to be diagnosed and treated by an unqualified, non-registered quack masquerading as a "doctor"??? We can all give examples of hopeless, dimwitted and under-performing GPs and hospital doctors in any profession but YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT!

        We once had a central registration body for fully qualified teachers but...??????

        You must think out of your own subjective box and realise that there are numerous well qualified, young, dynamic and COMPETENT TEACHERS who now find themselves unemployed because of this Government's undermining, devaluing and disrespectful attitude!

      • Laura TyrrellLaura Tyrrell commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Unqualified doesn't necessarily actually mean incompetent, it just means a different training route. I worked as an unqualified teacher in a private school when I graduated from university but I was given intense in-school training and a tremendous level of support from my colleagues. Not holding a PGCE doesn't mean that you're incapable or lacking enthusiasm. I loved my job and built excellent relationships with all of my students. Furthermore, there are plenty of teachers in schools who ARE qualified, yet still lack the required levels of enthusiasm, creativity or appropriate and up-to-date knowledge.

        The issue should be about raising the standard of teaching and the teacher as an individual, rather than the possesion (or lack thereof) of a piece of paper.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Sir , I kanwal javed {Ms c chemistry[(full chemist)/ diploma in pharmacy holder/ assistant pharmacist , as B Category from Pakistan} my commercial membership No:- 010132-B/11 from Pakistan in the "PFC" Punjab Pharmacy Council ,Lahore,Punjab, Pakistan ], so I have the right to confirm in yours majesty honor that Pakistan's education is the same as in UK , but only draw back is this of Pakistan that not superior than UK ? so I am holding same & equal qualified degrees as in Uk ? but I am not competing me/ myself with UK education ? I want to relocate/ less pay/ only as trainees to be deputed may be voluntarily ? now I am holding 4/5 months experience of sales of medicines on east London pharmacy store , holding experience by attending 9 months course of "English Proficiency of "A LEVEL" at east London , holding tda govt. / NARRIC evaluation/ recommendation certificate to be deputed in the state organizations , my whole case is total guaranteed for deputing is equal to clear of CRB check? please me be deputed in any catagory even on voluntarily as trainees ? ---------------------> confirmer kanwal javed <-----------------------------(date:-28-08-2012)
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------>Kanwal Javed

        Name:

        Name : Kanwal javed
        Father’s name : Sheikh Javed Iqbal
        Date of Birth : 01-01-1986
        N.I.C. No. : 33202-5238599-2
        Nationality : Pakistani
        Marital Status : Married
        Religion : Islam
        Domicile: : Jhang (Punjab) Pakistan
        Home Address: : BOLEYN ROAD PRACTICE
        140, BOLYEN ROAD
        FOREST GATE
        LONDON E7 9QG.
        Email Address: (i) Usmanjg@yahoo.com
        (ii) Javed.sheikh42@yahoo.com Tel. : 020 8503 5656
        Cell: 00447950356564/OO447438492317


        Year Degree/ certificate Institution/ Board
        2001 Matric(Science) Faisalabad Board Pb.Pk
        2004 F.s.c (Medical) Faisalabad Board Pb.Pk
        2008 B.s.c (Medical) University Of Sargodha Pb.Pkà Can also teach Botany & Zoology subjects as well at5th to secondary level
        2010 M.s.c (Chemistry) Government College University Faisalabad, Pb.Pkà Now also “Full Chemist” & a Commercial Member of Chemist Association of Pakistan.
        2011 Assistant pharmacist(Diploma) Punjab Pharmacy Council Lahore. Pb.Pk (i)à Now member of Commercial Organization of Pakistan à”PFC” Punjab Pharmacy Council, Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan, under Membership No:-010132-B/11(with attending & holding 1 years Pharmacy lab experience)(ii) Got 4months training at Pharmacy store at East London, regarding Sales & handling of Medicines (can be confirmed telephonically)!
        After 2011, immigrating on 7 April, 2010 to my “New & Great Country, UK” i) Got Sales & handling of setting, as Practice of medicines, as stated above?ii) àAttended 9 months course of “ A LEVEL” English Proficiency Course at East London à exam has been taken & Completed, now waiting for the result?iii) àGot tda govt. registration “as un-qualified teacher in Chemistry “ on pay scale pounds: - 15817/- annum to be deputed in the primary wing of state Schools positively!iv) àGot “Evaluation Certificate “by the “NARRIC: -, to be deputed in the state Organization’s!


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        · 6 month experience in teaching in pakistan
        · Working as qualified person at medical institution in pakistan

        · Urdu
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        · Punjabi

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      • AnonymousAnonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        i am a qualified teacher ,unemployed now,with 16 years experience .the last schooli worked in had 5 l.s.a.1 now working my class ,effectively took my job,can't get supply l.s.a filling those jobs too.what kind of education will the children be getting?

      • AnonymousAnonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'm tired of My Beautiful Daughter coming home, fed up because Her class has been dumped with a stand in /Teacher whom didn't have a clue about teaching them & all they got was a sheet of paper, hey full marks, NOT!!

      • Petronius PhilipsPetronius Philips commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        jodave,

        Thanks for your comments. What is happening now is utterly unacceptable and one wonders how low and hypocritical this evil coalition government will go. With the forward drive of the suspect academies, do schools actually need fully qualified, fully registered teachers?

        There needs to be a revolt because the DfE and Mr Gove are lying to parents, undermining, devaluing and degrading QTS!

        Those at the DfE are actually abusing the rights of all pupils to be PROPERLY TAUGHT BY fully trained, fully qualified and registered teachers not unqualified people whatever the ridiculous, hoodwinking job title that is given to parents and pupils!

      • jodavejodave commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Jobcentres are filling up with qualified teachers who can't get work because unqualified staff are being used in their place, on the cheap.
        At the moment, pupils and parents think that the temporary member of staff is a teacher. Parents need to be asking schools what their policy is for covering teacher absences. Who is going to be taking charge of their child's education?

        Cover Supervisors, as schools and the Dept or Education keeping telling us, are not employed to teach. They are their to supervise the pupils, maintain order and issue work selected by qualified staff. They don't have to have any specialist knowledge, needing only a Grade C at GCSE in English and Maths, so can easily cover a Modern Languages lesson as they are just required to hand out worksheets and collect them in again. the work should be unchallenging so that the pupils can do it without adult input.

        Yet ... we hear of the regular changes to the CS job description, with tasks that sound very like a teaching role included but with great care taken to not actually use the word 'teach' or 'teaching'.

        Some adverts for permanent Cover Supervisors state that the candidate will be required to plan lessons and deliver them. "Deliver", you understand, not 'teach"!

        I and many other highly qualified supply teachers will be leaving the profession this year as we can no longer put our lives on hold for sporadic days of work, not even enough for me to have paid tax in the 2011/12 financial year! When schools actually need me again to teach several languages (+ other subjects that I have spent my own time and money training for), and can do so at short notice, they will just have to manage with the person who left school at 16 yrs of age and may not be as academic as some of the pupils they will be required to 'supervise'!

      • Tom and Jackie TrustTom and Jackie Trust commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I tried to get the GTCE to voice opposition to the use of cover supervisors in their last Council before the planned publication of the Education Bill that heralded the closure of the GTCE. Talk about the band playing on the Titanic - a suit proposed the motion "be not put" as there "hadn't been any research into the effects of using cover supervisors" and enough of the members bought it: so the full Council decided it hadn't got an opinion on the use of non-teachers - as teachers. Some "Teaching Council"!

      • JohnnyJohnny commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        If this keeps happening then the vicious circle of dumbing down the nation will continue. Maybe this is what the government wants in the long run, a society which is unable to think for itself and will do whatever "master" says.

        “Remember remember the fifth of November…..”

      • AnonymousAnonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The Cover Supervisor

        "Bold Roger was a teacher who lived in Lowestoft,
        Next door his friend, let’s call him Dave,
        Worked in a shop which sold those tools
        Which people buy do do odd jobs
        That don’t get done and so the tools,
        Are stored up in the loft.

        Young Dave he thought he’d like a change, to have an easier day,
        “Work in a school,” the advert said,
        “You need no stifficates to be
        A person in the classroom who
        Does everything a teacher does,
        For only half the pay.”

        For Roger it was quite a shock to face the lack of work,
        “This agreement,” the union said.
        Will make your week much easier
        With time to plan and meet and mark
        And keep your paperwork quite neat,”
        He fell for it, the Berk.

        So Roger had an easy week and then an easy term,
        Quite soon it was an easy year,
        For once a fortnight all he did
        Was sign his name upon a form
        To say that he had done no work,
        His status to confirm.

        And so upon that fateful day an advert did appear,
        For that same shop where Dave once worked,
        Now had a need for someone who
        Could sell the tools for DIY
        And bedding plants and garden gnomes,
        He took it with a tear.

        Dave was an (almost) teacher who lived in Lowestoft,
        Roger, his friend, who lived next door,
        Worked in a shop which sold those tools,
        Which people buy do do odd jobs,
        That don’t get done and so the tools,
        Are stored up in the loft."

      • AnonymousAnonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Anyone know how Ofsted deals with observing, monitoring cover for schools? Do Cover Supervisors get observed? if so under what criteria are they assessed?............... definitely not via the teaching criteria .................... so HOW ARE THEY ASSESSED anyone know?? If they are not assessed and the question of quantity of cover, who when and how often is not addressed by Ofsted then Headmasters have a free hand to do what they will to save money and disregard the rights of a pupil to have a QTS graduate in front of every class.

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