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Ban "kettling". It is a clear infringement of a democratic right. Call it: Don't Put the Kettle On.

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    JanyaJanya shared a merged idea: Stop the police use of 'Kettling' tactics during protests and demonstrations.  ·   · 

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      • But You Look AlrightBut You Look Alright commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        In reply to Phil "As a nurse I am concerned that colleagues are frightened to march on the 26th for fear of being kettled"

        Phil, that is precisely why the use of kettling was authorised and conflict deliberately provoked - to put people off demonstrating. It is our democratic and LEGAL right. As nurses perhaps you could offer to join up with the disabled who intend to protest but will be at greater risk and need able-bodied help.
        If the disabled are prepared to not be "frightened" off by intimidatory tactics then surely nurses should have the courage to help. See:
        http://www.dpac.uk.net/2011/03/join-us-at-26thmarchtuc-protest/

      • john Daveyjohn Davey commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Kettling is an indiscriminate and dangerous police tactic. It puts families at risk and alienates a peaceful but disaffected public further from a police force that is supposed to serve them.

      • joy wilsonjoy wilson commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The right to protest peacefully was something which used to set us apart from some other parts of the world - we watched on news reports as peaceful demonstrators were attacked by thuggish police tactics - and thought that couldn't happen here!!!???

      • But You Look AlrightBut You Look Alright commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Disabled people are planning to go on this march despite severe health worries and lack of mobility. the police have asked disabled organisations for estimates of the numbers expected. What plans have they got for kettling the disabled who could be made seriously ill by such a prolonged tactic?This is intimidation to try and put people off their LEGAL right to peaceful protest. Cameron advocates it all over the Middle East, why not here? (Wear a hard hat!)

        Mind you, since they have just cut police numbers and want to cut their pay, maybe they'll join in!

      • philphil commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        As a nurse I am concerned that colleagues are frightened to march on the 26th for fear of being kettled

      • JeremyJeremy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        kettling is inappropriate in a democratic society as it acts as a form of mass detention irrespective of what the people inside the kettled 'zone' have actually done. If there is trouble then the police should try their best to bring those involved to justice, not punish everyone under blanket powers.

      • Marcia Simpson-JamesMarcia Simpson-James commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The police are working 'closely with' 'human rights'(?) organisation Liberty, and being directly 'advised' by their director Shami Chakrabati. It may be of interest to everybody to know that, little brown girl Shami, is embroiled with the Libyan Dictator Ghaddaffi. Apparently, she works tirelessly to promote Ghaddaffi's despotic causes. Ghaddaffi-loving Shami, sits on the ruling 'Council' of the London School of Economics (LSE), where they were recently exposed as having accepted £1.5 million from the murdering tyrant's son Saif, (this included payment for his plagiarised PhD - on liberty, civil society & democracy). We known that both Ghaddaffi Sr & Junior are presently busy slaughtering the Libyan people (e.g. carpet-bombing innocent women and children). Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the British police are taking 'advice' from Shami 'I-love-the murderer-Ghaddaffi' Charakbati on 'kettling'! The Met police + Liberty = Caveat Emptor!

      • holding back the riverholding back the river commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The police are now appointing a "kettling manager" for the march on March 26th. They say they are anticipating "troublemakers." This is the usual softening up stuff in the lead up to a demonstration - used to attempt to justify subsequent repressive tactics.

        There is absolutely no need to kettle or to appont a kettling manager. Any competent and professional police force (which will be out in strength on 26 March) should be perfectly capable of arresting any real "troublemakers" without resorting to falsely imprisoning and collectively punishing the mass of legitimate peaceful protestors who are democratically expressing their opposition this government's policies.

        These police arguments need to be challenged. They are transparently self-serving to attempt to justify political policing which is protecting an illegitimate government.

        Ban kettling now.

      • Marcia Simpson-JamesMarcia Simpson-James commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Is it true that the police intend to hand out leaflets to those who they intend to 'kettle'? This is a very simple device to cover themselves legally, so that if anybody dies, or is seriously injured, they can argue that they are not culpable. Not only that, but I also understand that they want a 'human rights group' to act as 'observers'. Will these observers stop a police attack, or a police horse charge or a police old-style SPG pusche, where they use their sticks to crack a few skulls? What about police dogs, are members of the public protected against dog attacks?

      • BetsyBetsy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Kettling is basically a form of temporary incarceration. It's imposed indiscriminately by the state, and the people subject to it have no rights to representation or recourse to the legal system, although they are being informally criminalised by being in the kettle. They are not told how long they will be incarcerated for - in fact frequently they are given confusing and conflicting information. Often people suffer abuses during the period of temporary incarceration, whether that's denial of food, water and toilet facilities, being crushed, or beaten. Then, they are formally criminalised, either by being forced to be photographed and give their details, or simply by being rounded up and arrested.

      • JAMES DAVIESJAMES DAVIES commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Kettling clearly breaches an individual's rights to move freely (which is obvs a fundamental part of liberty) and is not acceptable/counter-intuitive when infflicted onto peaceful protesters.

      • Carol LaidlawCarol Laidlaw commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It's always a deliberate provocation by the police, recklessly endangers people, and is never, ever necessary. The best way for the police to prevent violence on demonstrations is not to instigate it in the first place!

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